November 7, 2005

4th Century Church in Megiddo

If you didn’t read it, this is fascinating:

Israeli archaeologists said they have discovered what may be the oldest Christian church in the Holy Land on the grounds of a prison near the biblical site of Armageddon.

The Israeli Antiquities Authority said the ruins are believed to date back to the third or fourth centuries and include references to Jesus and images of fish, an ancient Christian symbol.

“This is a very ancient structure, maybe the oldest in our area,” said Yotam Tepper, the head archaeologist on the dig.

The dig took place over the past 18 months at the Megiddo prison in Israel’s northern Galilee region, with the most significant discoveries taking place in the past two weeks, Tepper said. Scholars believe Megiddo to be the New Testament’s Armageddon, the site of a final war between good and evil.

Tepper said the discovery could reveal more about an important period of Christianity, which was banned until the fourth century.

“Normally, we have from this period in our region historical evidence from literature, not archaeological evidence,” he said. “There is no structure you can compare it to. It is a very unique find.”

Come on the heels of the uncovering of the Pool of Siloam and what could possibly be King David’s Palace.

Miss Mabrouk has a link to another fascinating discovery:

The story of a mysterious massacre in the royal city of Mendes in the Nile delta area is being unearthed by archaeologists who were stunned to find some 36 bodies in a mass grave under a temple.

They found old and young, men and women, tumbled in disordered heaps. In a civilization that made a cult of death, such discoveries are rare: even the poorest were interred formally, and with some provision for the afterlife.

It is an astonishing discovery; the arid climate in Egypt helps in preservation but this part of the country has been inundated by the Nile every year, at times for up to ten months of the year. Archaeologists say the bodies “are virtual powder in the mud.”

Speaking of Miss Mabrouk, I like her question here:
Evolution or intelligent design? Darwin against God? The current debate in the U.S. is bizarre: why would you not teach science and be able to introduce the opposing theories at the same time? I thought learning was about realizing how little we actually know. Is not Plato speaking to American educators any longer?

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7 Responses to “4th Century Church in Megiddo”

  1. Sigmund, Carl and Alfred Says:

    There’s a metaphor here…it’s not always a bout technology, the latest or the greatest.

    Sometimes, all you need is a shovel and brush to find the real treasures.

  2. Larwyn Says:

    “CAN A PRESIDENT FINISH WHAT A KING, A SULTAN AND A POPE BEGAN?”
    Ed Lasky asks “-are they really experts in history?” at the History
    Channel - link to Amer.Thinker below.

    Yes, they are the experts that have studied at the LEFT run institutions
    of “higher learning”. Their books must begin at a point in time when
    the followers of mohammed* have already slain or converted the Jews
    and Christian they conquered in these regions.
    They skipped those entire chapters on the CENTURIES
    OF CHRISTIANITY that went before mohammed* had his hallucinations.
    That is 100’s of years after the birth of Christ!
    Of course, when your goal is to put both Pres. Bush and Christianity
    and Israel in the worst possible light - rewriting and ignoring actual
    history will probably get A’s, a Ph.D., tenure and book reviews by the
    NYT’s.
    Hope that you who have written on this will point all this out to the
    History Channel and also to parents who may feel that watching the
    presentations by the History Channel are educational.
    We have noted 6 network primetime dramas that this week scripted
    Lefty propaganda and outright lies into their scripts. Figure seems low
    only when you realize that most of us are not “couch potatoes” — so
    the more inane the show — the more they can probably get away with
    – we are not watching anyway.
    We have our children watching The History Channel!
    Best Regards,
    Larwyn

    * IRTS = “I Refuse To Shift”
    My protest of the dutch and brussel’s effort to decapitalize
    Christ. I will decapitalize the entire eu crew.
    Just realized they are going to have to reprogram all computer
    spellcheck programs. Microsoft and Google will have as little
    problem with assisting them in this effort if we consider their
    willing help to China to filter the words; freedom, democracy
    etc. Sorry, I digress - but all is connected.

    “CAN A PRESIDENT FINISH WHAT A KING, A SULTAN AND A POPE BEGAN?”

    Click here: The American Thinker http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=3587

    History Channel Ad for Crusades documentary

    Can there be a more biased, inflammatory, and incorrect headline than this one for the upcoming History Channel Documentary on the Crusades?

    “CAN A PRESIDENT FINISH WHAT A KING, A SULTAN AND A POPE BEGAN?”

    What exactly is the HISTORY channel trying to tell us in this rhetorical question? That President Bush is a medieval tyrant determined to murder thousands and thousands of innocent people to reclaim the middle east for Christianity?

    Recall the abuse that President Bush took for his off-the-cuff remark made in the wake of 9/11 regarding “a crusade” against the evil-doers. Bush made an innocent remark in the heat of a crisis, one that was roundly condemned because of the possible harm it might cause to America’s relations with the world’s Muslims.

    The History Channel spent countless hours, hundreds of thousands of dollars to spread this demagoguery. No one in the committees responsible for approving this advertising campaign pointed out the absurdity of their headline-are they really experts in history?

    Shame on them.

    Ed Lasky 11 05 05

    AND IT ALL THIS ISN’T ENOUGH FOR YOU,
    PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT:

    The logo is Jesus on the Holy Cross wearing one red glove, an MJ hat and
    shoes - His hands are in “rock star”
    formation.

    CBS - HOME OF DAN RATHER!

    Click here: CBS Producer Peddles ‘Jesus Juice’ Wine | NewsBusters.org Home » blogs » Matthew Sheffield’s blogCBS Producer Peddles ‘Jesus Juice’ Wine

    Posted by Matthew Sheffield on November 6, 2005 - 06:13. A CBS producer who led the network’s coverage of the recent Michael Jackson trial has been marketing a brand of wine under the label “Jesus Juice,” complete with a logo of a Christ figure sporting a Jacksonesque red glove, fedora hat, white socks, and penny loafers

    NewsBusters.org has learned that Bruce Rheins, a high-level producer for such shows as the “CBS Evening News”, and his wife, Dawn Westlake, began preparations for their marketing campaign while the Jackson case was still in court, registering a U.S. trademark for the words “Jesus Juice” in January of 2004, days after word got out that Jackson allegedly referred to wine by that term in attempting to seduce young boys.

    HOPE ALL WILL EMAIL CBS AND THEIR FAVORITE “LIBERALS” ASKING ABOUT
    “SENSITIVITY”.

    CHRISTIANITY IS FAIR GAME - WE MUST
    REALIZE THIS AND PRAY FOR COURAGE TO
    STAND UP TO THE EVIL.

  3. GeraldBoSox Says:

    Of course it should be called the oldest Catholic church, given that not a Baptist, Presbyterian or Lutheran was in sight in the fourth century.

  4. Joseph Says:

    Howdy, Anchoress. Good to be back. Glad to help you celebrate the new jewel in the Christian storehouse of treasures.

    However…

    “Why would you not teach science and be able to introduce the opposing theories at the same time?”

    The problem is that the partisans of Intelligent Design do not present it as a philosophical point of view in counterpoint to Science. They insist on it being taken as a piece of Science itself.

    Intelligent Design already has a place in our education alongside of Plato and not with Darwin.

    It’s place is that of the philosophical rationale for God’s existence known as the Argument From Design. It’s intellectual compatriots are the Ontological Argument, and so forth.

    The quarrel a thinking American has with it these days is that it is Philosophy being foisted off on us as Biology.

  5. joeh Says:

    But isn’t Darwin the “theory” of evolution being foisted on us as fact? I suspect there are more facts that can be presented on intelligent design than there are that the “theory” of evolution is fact.

  6. joeh Says:

    Here is a good place to look at the discussion on Intelligent Design and Darwin.

    http://www.idthefuture.com/

  7. Joseph Says:

    No. It is presented, when it is presented responsibly, in biology classes as a theory which is very well buttressed by emprirical evidence. The evidence is the “facts” the theory is the explanation of the facts. The test of a theory is how well it explains the facts.

    It is important to understand what a scientific “theory” is supposed to do. First, it is supposed to explain the evidence. Second, it is supposed to suggest new ways of obtaining new evidence.

    As far as my reading goes, I.D. fails on both grounds. It is a sensible explanation for only part of the evidence, the fact that biological things are both complicated and elegantly organized. A “designer” a sensible explanation for this, but not the only possible one.

    The evidence that I.D. doesn’t explain is the overwhelming amount of data that natural selection is still taking place–that you can actually watch it over time and see directly how living things are changing in response to their environment.

    Not even the strongest partisan of I.D. will assert that you can watch the “creator” in action. Put the question simply: Just when was the last time that the “designer” designed something new? And who saw it happen? and the problem with the I.D. explanation becomes quite clear.

    I.D. also fails on the second count as a scientific theory. It does not suggest any way to obtain new evidence either by field observations or by experiment. Think it through for yourself. Starting with I.D. what else could you do to collect more evidence of a “designer”? Science leads to new knowledge. I.D. leads nowhere.