August 11, 2006

“None of this would happen if Bush hadn’t invaded Iraq”

Riggggght. Some background. With Pictures, if words are too much for you.

Because before we went into Iraq, there were no terrorist attacks anywhere.

Ummm…right?

World Trade Center 1993

Khobar Towers 1996

Nairobi 1998

East Timor 1999

USS COLE 2000

It looks to me like in the 1990’s we were seeing an attack (on specifically American holdings, interests or vessels)
almost every 18 months, or so!

Then…Remember this?

New York City 9/11/01

New York City 9/11/01

Washington, DC 9/11/01

Bali 2002

But - Let’s not forget the 1985 hijacking of the Achille Lauro,
during which Abu Abbas murdered wheelchair-bound Leon Klinghoffer - before taking refuge in Iraq.

Let’s not forget the 1983 Bombing of American troops, in their barracks, in Beirut.

Let’s not forget the taking of American hostages, in 1979, held for 444 days.

Let’s not forget the Munich Massacre of 1972.

Let’s not forget The Bojinka Operation of 1995.

Did President Bush’s “moronic policies” do all of that stuff?

Oh, wait…we’re not seeing attacks every 18 months, anymore - are we?

In fact, it looks like President Bush’s terrible policies helped foil this latest attempt, despite the
best efforts by the NY Times and others
to cripple necessary programs.

The plot was foiled because a large number of people were under surveillance concerning their spending,
travel and communications. Which leads us to wonder if Scotland Yard would have succeeded if the ACLU or
the New York Times had first learned the details of such surveillance programs.
[...]
In short, Democrats who claim to want “focus” on the war on terror have wanted it fought without the intelligence,
interrogation and detention tools necessary to win it. And if they cite “cooperation” with our allies as some kind of
magical answer, they should be reminded that the British and other European legal systems generally permit far
more intrusive surveillance and detention policies than the Bush Administration has ever contemplated.
Does anyone think that when the British interrogate those 20 or so suspects this week that they will recoil at harsh
or stressful questioning?

I keep remembering Harry Reid crowing,

“we killed the Patriot Act.”

There is a time to be a child, to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child.

Then there is a time to put childish things away.

If you want to disagree with policies meant to keep you safe, do it. If you want to hate a man or even a movement, do it.

But do it with something that goes beyond adolescent spouting off, backed up by nothing more than “feelings,” and
“caring,” and hysterical, dramatic angst.

Sometimes I read the drivel some of you folks write me, and I want to take you by the shoulders and shake you and say, “grow up”.

Grow UP!

Stop talking nonsense. Just, finally, stop it.

Go read why Brendan Loy has just about had enough, thanks. H/T Melissa.

Read why Lorie thinks reasonable people can find nothing like reason in you.

And grow up!


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21 Responses to ““None of this would happen if Bush hadn’t invaded Iraq””

  1. Obi’s Sister » Blog Archive » I get it - why don’t you? Says:

    [...] Our many freedoms stand solely on our ability to maintain our national security. It’s as simple as that. And Britain, despite a small difference of opinion around 230 years ago, remains our staunchest ally. The Anchoress has a superb roundup of facts past and present, along with some scolding words for those that DON’t GET IT. There is a time to be a child, to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child. Then there is a time to put childish things away. If you want to disagree with policies meant to keep you safe, do it. If you want to hate a man or even a movement, do it…but do it with something that goes beyond adolescent spouting off, backed up by nothing more than “feelings,” “caring,” and hysterical, dramatic angst. [...]

  2. pendell Says:

    I know that, for me, there is a temptation to be angry at Muslims in general over this, and I want to point one thing out … to myself, and to any other readers struggling with anger …

    … there are Muslim heroes in this story as well as villains.

    Yes, the authorities stopped a bomb plot by violent murderers, but how does anyone think they tumbled to the plot in the first place?

    It wasn’t a crystal ball. I strongly doubt government psychics (if they exist) could scrye their own buttocks. No, this plot was broken because of “information received” — i.e., some Muslim person got upset and tipped the authorities.

    The war against terror is primarily a war of intelligence … and intelligence primarily comes from Muslims who have very strong views on the world, but won’t stand for murder. These people are heroes. Unsung and unknown heroes, naturally, whose reward will mostly be to be lumped in with thugs and terrorist and treated with scorn by the outside world, and hated as traitors by the extremists. But the war on terror can’t be won without them.

    So if one sees a Muslim in the street, don’t just think of bomb-throwing maniacs. Think also of quiet, civilized people who help protect you from those self-same bomb-throwing maniacs.

    Respectfully,

    Brian P.

  3. Musing Minds » » The Anchoress Says it All Says:

    [...] just grow up. There is a time to be a child, to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child. Then there is a time to put childish things away. If you want to disagree with policies meant to keep you safe, do it. If you want to hate a man or even a movement, do it…but do it with something that goes beyond adolescent spouting off, backed up by nothing more than “feelings,” “caring,” and hysterical, dramatic angst. Sometimes I read the drivel some of you folks write me, and I want to take you by the shoulders and shake you and say, “grow up. Grow UP!“ | RSS | Inlinks | Trackback URL | Print This Post [...]

  4. TheAnchoress Says:

    Good comment, Brian…probably better posted in the Hyperventilation thread. ;-)  The Long URL was upsetting things so I linked to it in the post above.

  5. Blue Crab Boulevard Says:

    Tired Of Hearing The Same Noise

    The Anchoress says it so well, rounds up all the links and provides the smackdown in perfect context.
    Go read what she wrote.

  6. Brutally Honest Says:

    We must first seek to understand

    Understand what? Well, that calling terrorists Islamo-fascists is offensive to some. That we should ignore the evidence. That in reality, Hezbollah is more Christian than many Christians. That, in fact, Christians in America, as individuals and as a na…

  7. Wizbang Says:

    Every Bad Thing In The World Is Not A Result Of Iraq

    The Anchoress has a brilliant message, in pictures, for those who think the most recent attempted terror attack, or any of the successful past terror attacks were in response to anything George Bush has done, in Iraq or elsewhere….

  8. Jo's Cafe Says:

    Weekend Specials 8/12-8/13

    Specials for the Weekend of August 12th & 13th, 2006

  9. Chris At Home Says:

    Roundup

    Depression reigns at Chris At Home. Friggin’ Olmert…mea culpa for believing he had brains and for supporting the unilateral withdrawal policies.Olmert backtracked again, [URL=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sate …

  10. Webloggin Says:

    Why Do They Hate Us?

    Why should we trust liberals to lead this nation if they can’t answer these questions themselves some 5 years after 9/11? This is the question they don’t want you to ask. But it is also the question that needs to be posed to those who feel they hav…

  11. Bizzyblog Says:

    Weekend Question 3: How Timely Is This Post from The Anchoress?

    ANSWER: Dead on.
    ________________________________
    “None of this would be happening if Bush had not invaded Iraq” (HT Lorie at Wizbang).
    Where have we heard THAT ONE before?
    Why, just last Thursday, as noted at “Al-Reuters Explains It …

  12. TheTalkArena.com » This lady ain’t happy Says:

    [...] The Anchoress does a point-by-point refutation of the “None of this would be happening if it wasn’t for Bush” arguement. [...]

  13. bernieg1 Says:

    I linked to this post from Daily KOS - the idiot’s guide to Terrorism

    I don’t want to take anything away from Muslim informants, but take this perspective: in prison there are rapists, murderers and other vile creatures who would also turn a fellow inmate in for various reasons. The information is appreciated, but in no way are they heroes. They are scum that happened to inform on someone. No more - no less.

  14. Miquel Says:

    Hello dear Anchoress :)
    The Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina; was blown up in a big explosion in 1994. Add this one to the list too.
    Of course, the terrorists were Muslims.
    God bless you all ;)

  15. Trubador Says:

    More on the #1 issue facing the world…

    With a major hap-tip to The Anchoress and Gerald at Closed Cafeteria (both of whom beat me to the punch in compiling and posting aspects of this list), I now ask you plainly…

    What is the common denominator with regard to the following list of…

  16. The Anchoress » 9/11, Iraq, WMD, Clinton’s “birthday” and more Says:

    [...] And remember, it didn’t all start on 9/11. And it won’t end as long as the enemy sees us divided and unserious. [...]

  17. The Anchoress » Osama, leaks, timing and reality Says:

    [...] The ugly truth no one wants to admit, particularly within the left, is that this enemy is going to keep coming and coming at us…when we take one out, another will -for a while yet - be able to step up into his place. When we foil one ring, another will be just about ready to attack. While we’re cleaning out one rat’s nest, three more are being formed. That is why this is going to be a decades-long effort, no matter WHO gets into the WH in a few years, and no matter how much some would like to pretend that all of this is simply George W. Bush’s doing, because - you know - terrorism never existed before he got into office, or before he went to Iraq. [...]

  18. The Anchoress » NIE leaks, Bush moves, Pelosi closes doors, Talibani Thanks Says:

    [...] Oh, and terrorism existed before the Iraq War, as honest people, including Hamid Karzai will quickly remind the NY Times. [...]

  19. The Anchoress » Iraq and pulling out Says:

    [...] Once there was a perpetually warring Middle East burning the Great Satan in effigy, holding Americans hostage, training terrorists to kill and maim the infidel, blowing up trains, vacation resorts and skyscrapers and swaggering about declaring “the disappearance of Israel and America.” If we hold fast through difficult times, perhaps we will be able to say “These things are no more…” but first we have to be willing to deal with the difficulty. President Bush made it clear that the War on Terror - meaning the defeat of the whole idea of terrorism as a means-of-movement and persuasion - was going to be a “long, hard slog…” [...]

  20. The Anchoress » Re-assessing Iraq, Just Wars etc Says:

    [...] We we have to come together about this war and figure out what happens if we surrender, and what happens if we win. Because all of this does not “go away” in two years when Bush leaves office. Islamofascist terrorism was already business-as-usual before Bush came into office. It will be there when he leaves, and for a very, very long time after, unless we hold fast now, and see this thing through. [...]

  21. The Anchoress » Blog Archive » I’d have enjoyed seeing Rudy do this impression Says:

    [...] had more to say, all of it good. Especially since some of it, yer Anchoress has been kvetching about for years! by TheAnchoress @ 6:06 pm. Filed under War on Terror, Election 2008, TV/Pop Culture/Music [...]

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