Tied up with something and will get back to posting later tonight but to those writing about Hillary’s extremely ill thought-out “RFK was assassinated in June,” remarks, I’ll repeat what I wrote to Thom as the story broke.
That’s all. This cannot be fixed, especially when the press will not help her with it. She’s done. Toast.
Now she will not be the Democrat nominee - even if something horrible DID happen to Obama, she will not be.
Now she will not be his veep choice.
Now, she will not be his SCOTUS choice, or McCain’s.
It’s a long time til re-election, but maybe she won’t be the female Ted Kennedy, either.
She’s done. Someone please lead her off. Exit, stage left. Try not to bump into Obama as you leave.
May 24th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
But she didn’t mean it like that, her campaign says, and the only outrage here is that you would think so.
But, let’s be clear here, any candidate who even hints at the assassination of her opponent or alludes to it in any way in connection with her own future prospects should not only be done in that campaign, but done FOREVER politically.
There are things, once said, that can NEVER be taken back. Some things simply can never be repaired once broken. Hinting at the possible assassination of your opponent is as bad and low and vile as it gets, and even if you do not think that you used the reference in a “bad way,” even if you insist that it was “inadvertent,” the mere fact that you were thinking of the possible murder of a candidate as reason to continue your candidacy is enough to disqualify you permanently. This is as bad and low and vile as it gets, far worse, a 100 times worse than if she had come out and publically called Obama a n*****. (I can’t believe that I actually agree with Olbermann.)
Oh, but we must give her the benefit of the doubt, don’t we? Well, maybe if she hadn’t previously raised the prospect of her continuing her campaign because you never know when someone is going to be killed during the primaries, we might give her the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps if we (well, not me, but plenty of other people) had not given her the benefit of the doubt a couple hundred other times, we would this time. But eventually, the addition of even the smallest straw is going to break the camel’s back — and this is not a straw, this is a 1,000-ton boulder smashing down on the camel.
No. She is done, done, done. And if she does not have the decency to do so herself (narcissistic sociopaths rarely do), then the remaining superdelegates need to come out en masse this weekend and put Obama over the top.
May 24th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I believe you are wrong. I can’t imagine why she should want to be his VP, but if she wants it I think she has enough delegates, and super delegates that owe the Clintons, but supported Obama, to take the VP.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
I really wish Obama had made that comment instead of Mrs. Clinton… Maybe there is still time! Keep hoping and God bless! Padre Steve
May 24th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
What is more puzzling is why she said it. Did she miss read the script? What is even more fascinating is Obama’s response, where he just blew it off. Both of them should have been finished by now, at least twice, so why are they both still there? I don’t think she’s finished, I think this is going to the convention.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
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May 25th, 2008 at 8:08 am
She said it because it is close to the truth. She is staying in because she is convinced that something will happen to Obama, but she thinks it will be another Rev Wright revelation, or Obama will say something stupid like direct talks with terrorists, and that the Dems will realize that they must kick him under the bus (figuratively, but not actually), and give Queen Hillary the inauguration she has been entitled to all along. And the Dems are not willing to do that, because they have finally seen what conservatives knew back in the 90s, that Hill and Bill are both power mad, and that they will say anything to get power. And they are so desperate to get rid of her that they ignore what an empty suit Obama is.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:31 am
based on the Kennedy family’s reaction (or lack therof), this is but a blip to-do on the Dem race’s screen and a non-issue toward electability. I predict a surprise Convention of superdelegates’ votes, with Hillary coming out on top when all’s said and done. Then the real sprint of hurdles to the White House begin …
May 25th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
At 47 I just barely remember seeing the headlines about Robert Kennedy in the paper.He’s just a name; I know very little about him or the circumstances surrounding his assassination. I couldn’t figure out what the connection was, what point Hillary was trying to make. Finally, I realized she meant “the race wasn’t over and that was in June, so it’ ain’t over until it’s over folks.” Not once did I think she was threatening anything or discrediting anyone. I’ll bet there are many more like me to whom the allusion meant almost nothing and who wonder what all the fuss is about this time.
She’s not done yet (and the only reason I’m remotely glad about that is because Obama scares the living daylights out of me).
May 25th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
MamaTod - my sense was never that she was threatening Barack, but that she was bringing up a very tragic example that exhibited a real coldness of soul - it was exceedingly stupid, and too much ammo to hand over to her opponent and the press. They won’t let that go away, I don’t think, not unless they start to feel that hammering her is weakening the party as a whole.
May 25th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
One of the problems is that there is SO MUCH sociopathy from the Clintons on a fairly constant basis, that one tends to become numb to it after a while. They have been lower than low for so long, that, for some, it is hard to get outraged yet again. And there is so much, and it all kind of blends together, that one actually forgets all that they have done.
And then all the times that they have compounded their sociopathy (if that is even possible) by ALWAYS turning it around and blaming everyone else for intentionally misrepresenting their perfectly innocent, if not saintly, behavior. The latest — the uproar is all Obama’s fault. He is to blame for her raising the specter of assassination, not her.
But as for the raising of this issue of assassination — in answer to a question about continuing her campaign, when there were plenty of other non-assassination examples to use for extended campaigns — it is not the first time that folks on that side of the aisle have brought up the matter of political murder. Indeed, there have been a multitude of prayers for the assassinations of George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and many others. So don’t say that no one would ever purposely bring up such a horrible idea. They would and they have.
Moreover, let us think back upon those days of the 1992 campaign, which Hillary also referenced. Do you remember that one? Do you remember how Gov. Bill Clinton made a big show of interrupting his campaign to return to Arkansas to oversee the execution of a brain-damaged black man?
So, don’t tell me that the Clintons are above using the killing of a human being for political gain. I’ll leave it to others to decide whether race was also a factor in this vile politicized death by Clinton.
Now, I don’t think that Hillary was actually advocating the assassination of Obama, “as far as I know” (oh, yeah, remember that Hillary gem?), but she MOST DEFINITELY realizes that the ONLY POSSIBLE way she could have ever gotten the nomination at this point is if something extremely drastic happened to Obama. And that would suggest that somewhere, deep in the abyss that normally would be where her soul is, Hillary was and has contemplated it.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
All toast. Hillary toast. Obama toast. I was just at the Watsonville fly-in with the scouts. We saw a C-17 Globemaster, USAF, back 3 days from delivering tons of aid to China. I cannot imagine either Hillary, or 57 states Obama with enough smarts to be CIC over the people who could make and operate a machine like that.
Every 4 years I think of joining the Trappists, bit I am married with kids.
Can’t wait till Jan 20.
May 25th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
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May 26th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Game over, man. Game over.
Obama’s now (Monday 3:30 p.m.) at 1975 — if you give him only 40 of the remaining 86 primary delegates, that puts him at 2015. Add in Pelosi’s gang of 8, plus Jimmy Carter’s 1, and that puts Obama at 2024 (Out of 2026 needed).
The only way that Hillary can win now is if they change the rules, move the goalposts when Obama is on the one-foot line, and increase the number of delegates needed. But then, again, we all remember Robert Kennedy’s assassination. So there is that to consider too.